Author Topic: Cassiel WIP (v2007-03-14-v2009-12-27)  (Read 34955 times)

Offline PandMonium

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Re: Cassiel WIP (v2007-03-14-v2009-12-27)
« Reply #75 on: December 11, 2009, 03:30:07 PM »
all seem ok (no errors i mean, haven't looked at any by myself :p)

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Re: Cassiel WIP (v2007-03-14-v2009-12-27)
« Reply #76 on: December 12, 2009, 07:35:25 PM »
Sega Super Control Station - Games (TOSEC-v2009-12-10_CM)
this one is missing from the FTP afaik, i can only find:
"Sega Super Control Station - Games (TOSEC-v2009-11-26_CM).dat" there :)

btw, the update process is difficult and boring, adding / removing the newer dats manually to a common folder where the older ones are (i'm doing this only here at my computer, in the ftp that is done by idoru), we should have some sort of system to help us out in that, something to go to my todo list i guess :P

EDIT: ERROR - unknown renamer: Cassiel   - C0llector (DAT: Sega Visual Memory Unit - Applications)
there is an error in this datfile header, a tab instead of an empty space after your name :P
« Last Edit: December 12, 2009, 09:47:01 PM by PandMonium »

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Re: Cassiel WIP (v2007-03-14-v2009-12-27)
« Reply #77 on: December 13, 2009, 12:49:24 PM »
Oops...

I'll take a look when I'm home later today....

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Re: Cassiel WIP (v2007-03-14-v2009-12-27)
« Reply #78 on: December 13, 2009, 01:08:55 PM »
First of all, it's nice you removed the (JP)(ja) etc. but on the other hand you added (en) flags to "Nintendo 64 - Applications" (and other dats) where it's not needed because our main language is (en) we're only adding language code if it's different than (en) or adding (en) when the country is not an english speaking one.

I'm not sure wether it's good or not to add a language code even if it's english.
« Last Edit: December 13, 2009, 01:33:37 PM by TKaos »

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Re: Cassiel WIP (v2007-03-14-v2009-12-27)
« Reply #79 on: December 15, 2009, 12:36:20 PM »
Nintendo 64 (and most of others in the list) are systems released internationally and have international languages used.

I was under the impression from the TNC that it was only if a system had a “standard” language that it was to be omitted (from memory anyway). None of these have a “standard” language.

If you want (en) is to be omitted as a matter of course (unless essential presumably, e.g. (en-ja)), then I will update them….

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Re: Cassiel WIP (v2007-03-14-v2009-12-27)
« Reply #80 on: December 15, 2009, 12:39:45 PM »
PandMonium - other two issues fixed.

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Re: Cassiel WIP (v2007-03-14-v2009-12-27)
« Reply #81 on: December 22, 2009, 11:58:03 PM »
Did you fix the (en) stuff yet for the release?

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Re: Cassiel WIP (v2007-03-14-v2009-12-27)
« Reply #82 on: December 23, 2009, 12:54:05 PM »
No. Was waiting on confirmation from you re my post.

Definately dump (en) then?

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Re: Cassiel WIP (v2007-03-14-v2009-12-27)
« Reply #83 on: December 23, 2009, 01:03:57 PM »
Well if a setname got no language nor country flag then it's (en), that's why we don't use it in the names and as I said I used it in the Galaksija DATs and had to drop it.
I hope Pandmonium got some time soon to fix all that in the TNC.pdf.
« Last Edit: December 23, 2009, 01:05:45 PM by TKaos »

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Re: Cassiel WIP (v2007-03-14-v2009-12-27)
« Reply #84 on: December 23, 2009, 01:19:19 PM »
Well a set/image can still be language neutral (no language) if theres no english (or french or jap etc) text. Thats why some of them in my DATs (en) and some of them nothing.

Will try and change tonight anyway (as long as I have time).

PandMonium - you might want to add (en) to the parser then (to flag up as an error) since it will never be used on its own.....

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Re: Cassiel WIP (v2007-03-14-v2009-12-27)
« Reply #85 on: December 23, 2009, 03:08:33 PM »
Hi guys, nice to see you discussing that and getting somewhere :P
So i should disallow usage of (en) in which circumstances? Not that i will do it right now but i'm just asking to see if it is possible or would need some extra work.
The rules are something like:
*) If no language code assume the language is english
*) If country code is present and no language code, it means the language is what? a) country official language b) english
*) Country code and language code present don't need explanation, but using country and language from that country isn't needed because it is undeeded extra info? (e.g. (JP)(ja) / (PT)(pt) / (DE)(de), etc?
*) If only language flag is present, it can never be (en) because english is the "default" language and using it is unneeded (so it is something between an error and extra unneeded info)

See, TNC is always complicated even with the small easy flags but that is the way i would like to have all rules explained, it works a bit like the parser, having a set of rules and following some sort of cascade from flag to flag until entire setname is parsed and then the parsed flags checked :P

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Re: Cassiel WIP (v2007-03-14-v2009-12-27)
« Reply #86 on: December 23, 2009, 03:13:56 PM »
Yep rules are:
- If no language code assume the language is english
- If country code is present and no language code, it means the language is country official language
- Country code and language code present don't need explanation, but using country and language from that country isn't needed because it is undeeded extra   info. (e.g. (JP)(ja) / (PT)(pt) / (DE)(de), etc.
- If only language flag is present, it can never be (en) because english is the "default" language and using it is unneeded

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Re: Cassiel WIP (v2007-03-14-v2009-12-27)
« Reply #87 on: December 23, 2009, 11:51:54 PM »
New:
Sega Game Gear - Promotional (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)
Sega Mark III & Master System - Educational (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)
Sega Mark III & Master System - Firmware (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)
Sega Mark III & Master System - Promotional (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)
Sega Pico - Educational (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)
Sega Pico - Promotional (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)
SNK Neo-Geo Pocket Color - Promotional (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)

Updated:
Front Fareast Magic Drive - Firmware (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)
NEC PC-Engine & TurboGrafx-16 - Games (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)
NEC SuperGrafx - Games (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)
Nintendo 64 - Applications (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)
Nintendo 64 - Demos (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)
Nintendo Famicom Disk System - Firmware (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)
Nintendo Game Boy - Games (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)
Nintendo Game Boy Color - Demos (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)
Nintendo Game Boy Color - Games (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)
Sega 32X - Applications (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)
Sega Computer 3000 - Applications (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)
Sega Super Control Station - Applications (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)
Sega Super Control Station - Firmware (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)
Sega Super Control Station - Games (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)
Sega Visual Memory Unit - Demos (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)
Sega Visual Memory Unit - Games (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)
Sega Visual Memory Unit - Multimedia (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)
SNK Neo-Geo Pocket Color - Applications (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)
SNK Neo-Geo Pocket Color - Demos (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)
SNK Neo-Geo Pocket Color - Games (TOSEC-v2009-12-23_CM)

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Re: Cassiel WIP (v2007-03-14-v2009-12-27)
« Reply #88 on: December 24, 2009, 12:31:00 PM »
Grrrrrr..... just realised I've fucked up some of these DATs regarding the (en) flag (thats what I get for rushing).

I can't access the FTP from where I am, can someone please copy these DATs:
http://www.redsplinter.com/tosec/Cassiel%20DATs%2020091224.zip
and use them to replace the ones on the TOSEC FTP (7 new DATs replacing last nights corressponding 7 DATs).

I doubt I'll get a chance later tonight.....


New:
Sega Mark III & Master System - Firmware (TOSEC-v2009-12-24_CM)

Updated:
NEC PC-Engine & TurboGrafx-16 - Games (TOSEC-v2009-12-24_CM)
NEC SuperGrafx - Games (TOSEC-v2009-12-24_CM)
Nintendo Famicom Disk System - Firmware (TOSEC-v2009-12-24_CM)
Nintendo Game Boy - Games (TOSEC-v2009-12-24_CM)
Nintendo Game Boy Color - Games (TOSEC-v2009-12-24_CM)
SNK Neo-Geo Pocket Color - Games (TOSEC-v2009-12-24_CM)

Offline PandMonium

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Re: Cassiel WIP (v2007-03-14-v2009-12-27)
« Reply #89 on: December 24, 2009, 02:52:59 PM »
ok, i done it.
well at least you spotted the mistakes and fixed them in time, that's why people should be VERY careful when renaming to ensure no mistakes are done :)

edit: moved the rest to the new release topic