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TOSEC Project => TOSEC PIX => Topic started by: Diaboł on January 16, 2010, 11:58:01 AM

Title: TOSEC PIX Naming Convention
Post by: Diaboł on January 16, 2010, 11:58:01 AM
I have a few complete sets of scanned magazines which are not included in any PIX set. I want to rename it all using TOSEC naming convention so I have checked a few PIX dats and I'm a bit confused by the following flags(?): Issue, Volume and Number. I am not sure when I suppose to use it. In some dats you'll find only Number in use and in some all of them.

The reason why I actually ask about that is a problem that I have with one magazine. It's a Polish magazine called Bajtek. Usually all magazines print the issue number on the cover so did Bajtek. But because of a difficult financial situation in Poland during the beginning of 90' it was very difficult to keep a regular publishing process. So there were so called double issues. Say a magazine suppose to be published every month but instead sometimes there was a double issue once in 2 months.

So the numbers for an issues usually looks like this:NR 6 (64)'91 or NR 4(57-58)'90.The first number is the number of an issue (?) in a current year, second I would say is a number of a physical volume and then there is a Year. Now to make things more complicated sometimes double issues has a number looking like: NR 6-7(70-71)'92. At some point there was a real mess. There was a number 1-2(49-50) January 1990 then the next volume: 3-4 April 1990 and the next one: 5-6(51-52)'90.

Now nevermind the mixed date format, but look at the issue numbering:49-50, ?, 51-52. I remember that the editor said once that they know about the numbering mess but they were is bigger problems so they didn't really care. The last ever printed issue is: 9-10(133-134)/96 but the true is there were 130 physical volumes printed all together.

Do you have a way to deal with this kind of problems? Can you explain when you use Issue, Volume and Number? What is the difference between Issue and Number? It all sounds a bit complicated but I hope you know what I mean.
Title: Re: TOSEC PIX Naming Convention
Post by: PandMonium on January 16, 2010, 03:28:25 PM
Just read your post fast (not that easy to read you could separate it in paragraphs :P), anyway i've never renamed and i'm especially not comfortable with PIX and mags sets but all i can tell you is that there are no flags specific to mags only so from what i've saw previously the info is inserted in title / version / year / publisher, more info and country/language in some cases.
I guess you already know that anyway, about the format of how to form the title with all that info, there is no standard rule (afaik) but maybe Aral or other renamers doing so can give you some tips and opinions. Anyway whatever you use please always stick with the same format for similar magazines :P
Title: Re: TOSEC PIX Naming Convention
Post by: idoru on January 17, 2010, 03:28:31 PM
The numbering used for magazines in the TOSEC-PIX dats uses, wherever possible, the style that the particular magazine used.  That could be Issue xx / Vol. X No. Y / Volume X Number Y Issue Z/etc.  There are cases where this causes problems of course.

The Polish issues you mention sound much like a lot of the German style for magazines - which is a pain to rename.  I can't really offer much help without seeing the actual magazines to be honest.
Title: Re: TOSEC PIX Naming Convention
Post by: Aral on January 19, 2010, 09:43:51 AM
i have these Polish magazines you talk about in DJVU format which has to be converted to PDF before it can be included.  Do you have the files in PDF or have them in that DJVU format?
Title: Re: TOSEC PIX Naming Convention
Post by: Diaboł on January 19, 2010, 12:23:38 PM
I have it in DJVU format. Why would you want to convert it to PDF?
Title: Re: TOSEC PIX Naming Convention
Post by: Aral on January 20, 2010, 09:17:57 AM
PDF format is the only format the TOSEC PIX project use as PDF is now regarded as the industry standard for documentation worldwide and PDF software and tools are available for free on the Windows, Mac and Linux platforms.  Also there has been assurances from Adobe that the PDF standard will be available on these platforms or on new platforms for many years to come making it a wise choice for archiving documents for future generations to enjoy ;)
Title: Re: TOSEC PIX Naming Convention
Post by: idoru on January 20, 2010, 11:54:41 AM
btw PDF is an ISO open standard for document management since 2008 (ISO 32000-1)
Title: Re: TOSEC PIX Naming Convention
Post by: Kodoichi on January 20, 2010, 01:41:45 PM
Yet still, CBZ/CBR would have been a better decision, cause you keep the single image files and can easily exchange them if a better scan comes along:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_Book_Archive_file
Title: Re: TOSEC PIX Naming Convention
Post by: idoru on January 20, 2010, 01:55:41 PM
There's no compelling reason to pick CBR over PDF to be honest, and far more reasoning to pick PDF over CBR/DJVU.
Title: Re: TOSEC PIX Naming Convention
Post by: Diaboł on January 20, 2010, 05:39:16 PM
I do agree that PDF is much better choice for documents reproduction. I was asking about the conversion for a different reason. I used to think that TOSEC goal was to identify EVERY available file (I guess I saw a discussion about many [a] files on this forum just a few days ago...). Anyway I have all the Bajtek issues renamed and if you want I can try to convert it to PDF (which tool do you use?) and send you the DAT file.
Title: Re: TOSEC PIX Naming Convention
Post by: Aral on January 21, 2010, 09:30:40 AM
TOSEC's goal is to collect all things roms taht have different crc's.  TOSEC PIX's aim is to collect only the best quality scans that are available due to the sheer size of the project.  We now have over 200GB datted and it is growing daily.  The project will crack at least 500GB by christmas 2010 judging by the stuff still sitting on my drives waiting to be renamed and datted so we have to be a picky when it comes to quality. 

I will shortly convert the Bajtek i have to PDF and then send you a list of issues i have.  Hopefully you will have some issues to fill the gaps :)
Title: Re: TOSEC PIX Naming Convention
Post by: Kodoichi on October 11, 2013, 02:44:10 PM
There's no compelling reason to pick CBR over PDF to be honest, and far more reasoning to pick PDF over CBR/DJVU.
Three years later and you couldn't provide an argument why.
Title: Re: TOSEC PIX Naming Convention
Post by: Cassiel on October 11, 2013, 04:06:28 PM
Because CBx is barely a file format. Because PDF is ISO and widely supported.

This discussion is more than over, stop baiting.