TOSCECISO Database

[PandMonium]

I didn't read much of the first part with the strikeout text

You already understood how dats are created, sets are dumped and submitted, i think that they release dats with sets only confirmed once, the 2 dumps from 2 different sources are only used to guarantee that the dump is a "verified good dump", marking it with "[!]".

Now about your question, i really don't know. I've never talked with anyone about it and i only know that idoru has access to it. I think Duke coded it and there are a couple more guys working regularly with it (Maddog, GordonJ and so on). I have no knowledge on how the access is controlled there and who does what

Sorry for my last reply, i didn't notice this was on the iso board and so i referred to the entire project.

[Aral]

wtf?

[Aral]

i am going to bite my tongue, i really am....

[Ripper006]

TOSECISO Has 17 entries into the database one consiting of misc music.  But I could not find an entry for Atari Jaguar, I'm thinking there are other entries missing as well.  How is the data from systems NOT in the database (or in the database but not listed on the index page) being put in?  Is there a trick to seeing the Atari Jaguar database on http://toseciso.org/ AKA CD Dumping project.

Let me clarify a few things on this [sorry this is my first post - so I am taking it slow]. -->
1. there are more systems not listed on http://www.toseciso.org [like pc-fx, pce, psx, ps2, nuon etc]
2. as to cd-da only optica media --> thats a different ballgame
3. there isn't a trick as to wether such systems are in database or not --> its simply not there
4. reason why its not there --> since we using a test program called TruRip which is is still under development
5. also we are working on a new website, which not only has hashes of iso's etc but also all other information [long story]
6. the new website will also be linked to the new ripper / burner [also for downloadable content, art, fixable files, logfiles, submissions etc bla]
7. and yes we can allready dump jaguar cd (verifyable), cdi-ready etc bla
8. and yeah its better then current programs like EAC, isobuster, alcohol, cdrwin, PerfectRip, ImgBurn etc --> we been working on it for 2 years and testing also all current programs out.

I hope I answered any questions you having else start nagging me
[and btw new ripper can allready do a tosec or a redump rip with 1 click --> means no hacking, editing, deleting, adding, altering etc bla ]

[Ripper006]

PandMonium
Now about your question, i really don't know. I've never talked with anyone about it and i only know that idoru has access to it. I think Duke coded it and there are a couple more guys working regularly with it (Maddog, GordonJ and so on). I have no knowledge on how the access is controlled there and who does what

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Yes Duke coded it [at start], and Idoru maintaining it. Duke lost interest long ago. Don't ask me the reason, I don't know / don't care really.
And nope --> only Maddog has access to it as in being a maintainer of Neo Geo CD and IBM PC.
GordonJ has nothing to do with it. He just downloads from my tracker server -> toseciso server [dumpers only] --> and spits all crap as first out to PD tracker [so he gets credits --> who cares --> he is taking time / effort to spread around --> someone has to do that]

[Ripper006]

TKaos -->
Well I'm sorry that I can't help you, I'd really like to see more people contributing to the ISO part too but I'm just active in the TOSEC non ISO section.

-> noted Keep in mind there are people willing to contribute and have also then what the website shows atm.

I know it's frustrating to not see a release in all the months that passed since last time, currently we're working on it but keep in mind that we're all busy in real life,

-> Yes, there are reasons why there aren't new releases in the past months. It has to do with new website and new ripping methods. And yes at some point you can't expect Idoro or Maddog spending a shitload of time into it knowing something coming soon.

PandMonium really has small amount of time but atleast he always gives answers in the forum and still do some other stuff in the few free time he got.  I'm not really busy atm but at the moment I've to force myself a bit to do something, maybe it's also cause I have no idea yet when a release will happen.

--> Yeah we are busy all, no point (imo) to measure it --> keep in mind this is a 'hobby' and most important thing to keep  the 'fun'- factor into it - Beleive me we made many mistakes on that 1 in the past. And 1 thing I knew is --> you can't rush these things. All doing their best to their abilities [like I have here 2y / 5y old kid --> zxyo have 3 kids etc --> bloody vampires]

I've no idea how TOSECISO releases work and who's able to do them, can just think of some people that might be able to.
--> Its simple, only 2 people can add dumps to toseciso db, and only 1 can release the dats --> idoru. Which gets uploaded to a private tracker.

[Ripper006]

Note to Idoru --> if something is wrong with my posts or need commenting --> then yell and reply

[captcpsc]

Awesome and very informative! 

I hope I answered any questions you having else start nagging me 

Did you really mean "start" nagging you? 

I sent you a private message I hope you can spare a few minutes to respond to it!

Again thanks for these answers! 

[Tim2460]

I'm gonna pop the annoying question ,)

Is it difficult to transform the old rips to the new ones created with truRip?
With diff or par2 ?

After all it shoud be 99.99% the same isn't it ?

Edit : And can we beta test the TruRip Program ? ,)

I have several Saturn Disks there

[Ripper006]

Depends on system. But i guess you knew that all ready 

[Tim2460]

Not really

Wanted to estimate the amount of work for someone with both the old and new rip to create diff or par2 so that other people with only the old rips can
create the new rip out of them wihout redownloading everything.

[Ripper006]

yes will do. Probably will end up adding the par2 files for dl at new website

[Ripper006]

anyways keep in mind I will be adding also the sub files which you need to dl anyways --> shouldn't be too much

still in short: as to redumps needed --> no escaping that 1 --> will see how far we can 'repair' as to current sets. It really depends on what system you are speaking about. But will try to make as 'generic' as possible. Besides the par2 files its also a matter of formats to be chosen and names (tnc) of filenames [long story - we will speak / discuss about it later: seriously hating the current filenaming crap]

[Tim2460]

Ok

Good to know and Thank You for the answer

Edit : BTW proposition to beta test true Rip still on ,)

[Tim2460]

BTW2 I hope par2 programs are available on Win, Mac and Linux OS ?