TOSCECISO Database

[captcpsc]

TOSECISO Has 17 entries into the database one consiting of misc music.  But I could not find an entry for Atari Jaguar, I'm thinking there are other entries missing as well.  How is the data from systems NOT in the database (or in the database but not listed on the index page) being put in?  Is there a trick to seeing the Atari Jaguar database on http://toseciso.org/ AKA CD Dumping project.

[captcpsc]

I've still not received any replies on this?  I guess it's really hard to just give someone access to the database.  But, I would really like to help if possible.  I even promise to make backups before I make any changes!!!

[TKaos]

I'm sorry but I can't tell you anything about TOSEC-ISO and i'm affraid that nobody of that team is active here except idoru which is also a bit mssing atm.

[captcpsc]

Any ideas anyone on how to get a hold of members from the TOSEC-ISO team.  I haven't yet checked their IRC but I'm not thinking I will find anything there but Idle logins....

[TKaos]

I guess alot of them hang around in the EAB.

http://eab.abime.net/

[PandMonium]

As TKaos said no one around has access to the iso site/db i think (apart from idoru).
Also, don't want to demotivate you or something but i wouldn't expect access to it at all. Just think about it, no project that i know (not only rom related) will provide all their data and code to someone that asks for it, only if they are opensource / free / available from the start. Things don't work that way. Usually, at least around here, people came along and start to participate and being part of the community, helping out with smaller tasks and after a while they get more and more involved, once they understood all the details and showed they are really interested in the project.

I may be wrong, obviously, but you will have to wait for someone from ISO part to reply to you, maybe they need some updates and improvements on their system or need to add something new and your help will be really appreciated then.
Also, i already said that i have really no idea on how toseciso works. I guess for the Jaguar case (doesn't appear listed) is that those dats are probably made somewhere else (i see no point in having the system there as hidden). You may also try to ask for details at dumpcast, the group(?) that dumps tosec dreamcast sets

[captcpsc]

I see your point PandMonium.  Just frustration that is all.  I really enjoy what I have learned and seen from the TOSEC forum and totally have a passion for retro-gaming and preservation...  I'm just looking to make a difference and obviously you are right in what you said.  Maybe I've come along at the totally wrong time?  Maybe too late, maybe too early maybe there is going to be another burst of energy in the future and I've just got here too quick?  I will continue on my way collecting the current state of the TOSEC both ROM and ISO and then see what I can do.

[TKaos]

There's always happening something in the background, even when TOSEC was called dead there were like 2-3 renamers still working on it, just because nothing of it got released people often thought that nobody is doing anything anymore.

[captcpsc]

Another good point.

[TKaos]

Atleast now we have a forum and some of us renamers using it to give some information about our recent WIP work.

[captcpsc]

True... I would like to think that people whom have decided to take on projects such as this could spend an average of 15 minutes a day.... responding to emails and administrating the site etc...  I can EASILY see how you could spend your entire life working on this and only this and since there is no LEGAL money to be made in it...end up flat broke and no job...  but say Idoru passes away.  It's sad and I'd rather not think about it... but say it does happen.  SAY he is the only ADMIN....  it's DONE then...what?  

[TKaos]

There are more people than just idoru who has access to all DATs.
So the project won't be gone if 1 of them is away.

[captcpsc]

Oh well that's good.  Are any of the other people with access anywhere around?  Do you know their handles? 

[PandMonium]

I think you didn't understand what he said. He just said that other persons around have access to wip dats too (the renamer producing the wip dat and some of our members, after a while regular members start having it too once needed ).
We are referring to the main branch dats (disk dats), not the ISO dats / work. The iso part works in a different way, there is a db with the existent dumps (toseciso.org), dumpers all around the world can contribute and dump sets according to our method, once dumped and submitted (the hashs), the set becomes available in the future dats. This is all managed at the site and dats are generated there from time to time (AFAIK).

Ok? (i described what how i think it works / sounds logical, i've never tried or used the system).

[TKaos]

Well I'm sorry that I can't help you, I'd really like to see more people contributing to the ISO part too but I'm just active in the TOSEC non ISO section.
I know it's frustrating to not see a release in all the months that passed since last time, currently we're working on it but keep in mind that we're all busy in real life, PandMonium really has small amount of time but atleast he always gives answers in the forum and still do some other stuff in the few free time he got.
I'm not really busy atm but at the moment I've to force myself a bit to do something, maybe it's also cause I have no idea yet when a release will happen.
I've no idea how TOSECISO releases work and who's able to do them, can just think of some people that might be able to.