Author Topic: TOSEC-ISO Duplicates  (Read 346 times)

Offline Cassiel

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TOSEC-ISO Duplicates
« on: January 03, 2021, 11:22:03 AM »
Both are technically 'correct', it's simply the same promo disc, I'm not sure we should be doubling up?

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  C:\Program Files\ClrMamePro\datfiles\TOSEC-ISO\3DO\3DO Interactive Multiplayer\Coverdiscs\[ISO]\3DO 3DO Interactive Multiplayer - Coverdiscs - [ISO] (TOSEC-v2012-07-05_CM).dat (1 hit)
   Line 23:       <rom name="3DO Magazine 02 (1995)(Paragon Publishing)(GB)[!].iso" size="122249216" crc="b9876d52" md5="386805f6fee59bf102b6b2bf45e70112" sha1="fba51f45ff204ba67b62b302bb2356bffd89750e"/>
  C:\Program Files\ClrMamePro\datfiles\TOSEC-ISO\3DO\3DO Interactive Multiplayer\Samplers\3DO 3DO Interactive Multiplayer - Samplers (TOSEC-v2012-07-05_CM).dat (1 hit)
   Line 173:       <rom name="Super Street Fighter II X - Grand Master Challenge (demo) (1994)(Panasonic)(JP)[!].iso" size="122249216" crc="b9876d52" md5="386805f6fee59bf102b6b2bf45e70112" sha1="fba51f45ff204ba67b62b302bb2356bffd89750e"/>
« Last Edit: January 24, 2021, 09:55:41 PM by Cassiel »



Offline Maddog

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Re: 3DO Duplicate
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2021, 10:34:06 AM »
I remember facing this problem and discussing about it with idoru. Since it's not even on the same dat, the decision was that there is no major harm in letting it be twice, as it really was released as 2 quite distinct releases.
One possible solution would be to merge Coverdiscs and Samplers dats, but I don't really think it's necessary.

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Re: 3DO Duplicate
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2021, 10:59:09 AM »
No, don't think that's the solution.

Completely understand how this has arisen. Game Developer A creates Demo Disc, gives it away with affiliated game X, promotional competition, just flat out gives them out, whatever. Also, gives it to 'Official' magazine Y, who slap their own logo on the disc (cover disc done for this month, woohoo BEERS!).

I mean thats the point. It's a PROMOTIONAL SAMPLE. To create buzz/sales.

Sega Saturn has loads, PS1 too, God I'm sure most major platforms do.

Tricky one though. Must be an issue with floppy coverdiscs too (in MAIN). Compilations/Collections too.

No harm, for sure. But dupes... meh... dupes are annoying, where you draw the line?

BTW... think I've found some more examples (rebuilding ISO from near scratch), will post findings. Maybe shed extra light on it.



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Re: 3DO Duplicate
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2021, 11:16:31 AM »
Some more Amiga CD examples...

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  C:\Program Files\ClrMamePro\datfiles\TOSEC-ISO\Commodore\Amiga\CD\Compilations\[ISO]\Commodore Amiga - CD - Compilations - [ISO] (TOSEC-v2019-09-07_CM).dat (1 hit)
   Line 38:       <rom name="AGA Experience Volume 1 (1996)(NFA - SAdENESS).iso" size="679387136" crc="0b84bc61" md5="288e2f934626ce7583dcd775c80094b8" sha1="9532eb6d42c3a66fa626e079e4f6295eb5211c04"/>
  C:\Program Files\ClrMamePro\datfiles\TOSEC-ISO\Commodore\Amiga\CD\Coverdiscs\[ISO]\Commodore Amiga - CD - Coverdiscs - [ISO] (TOSEC-v2017-10-23_CM).dat (1 hit)
   Line 155:       <rom name="Amiga Format CD09 (1996-12-24)(Future Publishing)(GB)(Disc 2 of 2)[!][AGA Experience Vol. 1].iso" size="679387136" crc="0b84bc61" md5="288e2f934626ce7583dcd775c80094b8" sha1="9532eb6d42c3a66fa626e079e4f6295eb5211c04"/>

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  C:\Program Files\ClrMamePro\datfiles\TOSEC-ISO\Commodore\Amiga\CD\Compilations\[ISO]\Commodore Amiga - CD - Compilations - [ISO] (TOSEC-v2019-09-07_CM).dat (1 hit)
   Line 86:       <rom name="Amiga Games Extra CD 06-96 (1996-06)(APC&amp;TCP)(DE).iso" size="187019264" crc="f1ab5f8d" md5="a9bf5e1394ca742026214ac680e66010" sha1="0a0a1f07fd24b61c15be48c62f80cfc9589af04a"/>
  C:\Program Files\ClrMamePro\datfiles\TOSEC-ISO\Commodore\Amiga\CD\Coverdiscs\[ISO]\Commodore Amiga - CD - Coverdiscs - [ISO] (TOSEC-v2017-10-23_CM).dat (2 hits)
   Line 515:       <rom name="Amiga Games CD-ROM Extra 1996-06 (1996)(CompuTec)(DE)[!].iso" size="187019264" crc="f1ab5f8d" md5="a9bf5e1394ca742026214ac680e66010" sha1="0a0a1f07fd24b61c15be48c62f80cfc9589af04a"/>
   Line 519:       <rom name="Amiga Games CD-ROM Extra 1996-06 (1996)(CompuTec)(DE)[S AMIGA 6-96 01].iso" size="187019264" crc="f1ab5f8d" md5="a9bf5e1394ca742026214ac680e66010" sha1="0a0a1f07fd24b61c15be48c62f80cfc9589af04a"/>

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  C:\Program Files\ClrMamePro\datfiles\TOSEC-ISO\Commodore\Amiga\CD\Compilations\[ISO]\Commodore Amiga - CD - Compilations - [ISO] (TOSEC-v2019-09-07_CM).dat (1 hit)
   Line 90:       <rom name="Amiga Games Extra CD 12-96 (1996-12)(APC&amp;TCP)(DE).iso" size="378886144" crc="c284c57a" md5="b62c8d49ef0c38999aef0f327d2b214f" sha1="d50880e1e6c5ff3c6614ec1da75a5f50e1a80f1b"/>
  C:\Program Files\ClrMamePro\datfiles\TOSEC-ISO\Commodore\Amiga\CD\Coverdiscs\[ISO]\Commodore Amiga - CD - Coverdiscs - [ISO] (TOSEC-v2017-10-23_CM).dat (1 hit)
   Line 555:       <rom name="Amiga Games CD-ROM Extra 1996-12 (1996)(CompuTec)(DE)[S AMIGA 12-96 01].iso" size="378886144" crc="c284c57a" md5="b62c8d49ef0c38999aef0f327d2b214f" sha1="d50880e1e6c5ff3c6614ec1da75a5f50e1a80f1b"/>

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  C:\Program Files\ClrMamePro\datfiles\TOSEC-ISO\Commodore\Amiga\CD\Compilations\[ISO]\Commodore Amiga - CD - Compilations - [ISO] (TOSEC-v2019-09-07_CM).dat (1 hit)
   Line 100:       <rom name="Amiga Golden 20 (1996)(media Verlagsgesellschaft)(DE).iso" size="32221184" crc="a7cd5a09" md5="4287b0e8639c04e8cded9dd93e734046" sha1="4fdd1a9daaf533ef73b1c6670fa3150ef76d837f"/>
  C:\Program Files\ClrMamePro\datfiles\TOSEC-ISO\Commodore\Amiga\CD\Coverdiscs\[ISO]\Commodore Amiga - CD - Coverdiscs - [ISO] (TOSEC-v2017-10-23_CM).dat (1 hit)
   Line 570:       <rom name="Amiga Special CD-ROM 1998-03 &amp; 04 (1998)(media Verlagsgesellschaft)(DE)[!][Software Hits].iso" size="32221184" crc="a7cd5a09" md5="4287b0e8639c04e8cded9dd93e734046" sha1="4fdd1a9daaf533ef73b1c6670fa3150ef76d837f"/>


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Re: 3DO Duplicate
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2021, 12:34:31 PM »
More Amiga...

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  C:\Program Files\ClrMamePro\datfiles\TOSEC-ISO\Commodore\Amiga\CD\Compilations\[ISO]\Commodore Amiga - CD - Compilations - [ISO] (TOSEC-v2019-09-07_CM).dat (1 hit)
   Line 772:       <rom name="CDPL1 (1995)(Almathera)(PL).iso" size="614051840" crc="903554a1" md5="be0bd8ce49f37ae8297b7ce75df17c62" sha1="3d6d4d73938646def04ba706f06e056eaa11c35b"/>
  C:\Program Files\ClrMamePro\datfiles\TOSEC-ISO\Commodore\Amiga CDTV\Compilations\[ISO]\Commodore Amiga CDTV - Compilations - [ISO] (TOSEC-v2018-03-25_CM).dat (1 hit)
   Line 78:       <rom name="CDPL 1 (1998-09)(Almathera)(PL)[AmigaCD-CDTV-CD32][CDPL 1 Almathera Tel 01689 813616].ISO" size="614051840" crc="903554a1" md5="be0bd8ce49f37ae8297b7ce75df17c62" sha1="3d6d4d73938646def04ba706f06e056eaa11c35b"/>

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  C:\Program Files\ClrMamePro\datfiles\TOSEC-ISO\Commodore\Amiga\CD\Compilations\[ISO]\Commodore Amiga - CD - Compilations - [ISO] (TOSEC-v2019-09-07_CM).dat (1 hit)
   Line 851:       <rom name="FreshFish 1993-10 (1993)(Amiga Library Services).iso" size="676608000" crc="5b42590b" md5="88a10c52878514e00e418e6ad5336eb1" sha1="c06ddd68bf35a018ce7dc9d5e20f586c9f4b6a75"/>
  C:\Program Files\ClrMamePro\datfiles\TOSEC-ISO\Commodore\Amiga CDTV\Compilations\[ISO]\Commodore Amiga CDTV - Compilations - [ISO] (TOSEC-v2018-03-25_CM).dat (1 hit)
   Line 148:       <rom name="Fred Fish Collection on CD ROM, The - Volume 1.7 October 1993 (1993)(HyperMedia Concepts)[Amiga-CDTV].iso" size="676608000" crc="5b42590b" md5="88a10c52878514e00e418e6ad5336eb1" sha1="c06ddd68bf35a018ce7dc9d5e20f586c9f4b6a75"/>

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  C:\Program Files\ClrMamePro\datfiles\TOSEC-ISO\Commodore\Amiga CD32\Games\[ISO]\Commodore Amiga CD32 - Games - [ISO] (TOSEC-v2018-03-24_CM).dat (1 hit)
   Line 1099:       <rom name="Lemmings (1994)(Psygnosis)[!].cue" size="118" crc="a52d6a65" md5="447ca26accdb173e000993309bd65a28" sha1="ca943772517f1185ab04f7fa08e0b65dffa64538"/>
  C:\Program Files\ClrMamePro\datfiles\TOSEC-ISO\Commodore\Amiga CDTV\Games\[ISO]\Commodore Amiga CDTV - Games - [ISO] (TOSEC-v2018-03-24_CM).dat (1 hit)
   Line 176:       <rom name="Lemmings (1994)(Psygnosis)[!].cue" size="118" crc="a52d6a65" md5="447ca26accdb173e000993309bd65a28" sha1="ca943772517f1185ab04f7fa08e0b65dffa64538"/>

  C:\Program Files\ClrMamePro\datfiles\TOSEC-ISO\Commodore\Amiga CD32\Games\[ISO]\Commodore Amiga CD32 - Games - [ISO] (TOSEC-v2018-03-24_CM).dat (1 hit)
   Line 1100:       <rom name="Lemmings (1994)(Psygnosis)[!].iso" size="60307456" crc="c383ad21" md5="3ddb4d6dc9f2a57d3ab4cf7b2b0b8e7b" sha1="a92ec9de89109e586986c58f068c3862f33641c6"/>
  C:\Program Files\ClrMamePro\datfiles\TOSEC-ISO\Commodore\Amiga CDTV\Games\[ISO]\Commodore Amiga CDTV - Games - [ISO] (TOSEC-v2018-03-24_CM).dat (1 hit)
   Line 177:       <rom name="Lemmings (1994)(Psygnosis)[!].iso" size="60307456" crc="c383ad21" md5="3ddb4d6dc9f2a57d3ab4cf7b2b0b8e7b" sha1="a92ec9de89109e586986c58f068c3862f33641c6"/>

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  C:\Program Files\ClrMamePro\datfiles\TOSEC-ISO\Commodore\Amiga\CD\Coverdiscs\[ISO]\Commodore Amiga - CD - Coverdiscs - [ISO] (TOSEC-v2017-10-23_CM).dat (1 hit)
   Line 85:       <rom name="Amiga Computing 1995-05 (1995)(Europress Software)(GB)[!][Weird Science Multimedia Toolkit][Amiga-CD32].iso" size="574615552" crc="99dc7e2d" md5="10daae4753394aa7c35088088adb03ef" sha1="e7ea8527ab717df0ae757c3f52aa45175123e361"/>
  C:\Program Files\ClrMamePro\datfiles\TOSEC-ISO\Commodore\Amiga CDTV\Multimedia\[ISO]\Commodore Amiga CDTV - Multimedia - [ISO] (TOSEC-v2018-03-25_CM).dat (1 hit)
   Line 164:       <rom name="Multimedia Toolkit (1993)(Weird Science)[!][Amiga-CD32-CDTV][CDR000524].iso" size="574615552" crc="99dc7e2d" md5="10daae4753394aa7c35088088adb03ef" sha1="e7ea8527ab717df0ae757c3f52aa45175123e361"/>


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Re: 3DO Duplicate
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2021, 12:36:26 PM »
I don't know what is going on here (and not build IBM yet BTW...) but might be sitting in "PC" too... check out the other [more info] flags, previously.

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  C:\Program Files\ClrMamePro\datfiles\TOSEC-ISO\Commodore\Amiga\CD\Applications\[ISO]\Commodore Amiga - CD - Applications - [ISO] (TOSEC-v2019-09-07_CM).dat (1 hit)
   Line 32:       <rom name="C64 Sensations Vol. I (1995)(PDSoft)[!][Amiga-PC].iso" size="514848768" crc="83aa2287" md5="79e5176de1371b65641272cd74bec9a0" sha1="98a078d26b071e6bab36dc83e31ebb172491ddc0"/>
  C:\Program Files\ClrMamePro\datfiles\TOSEC-ISO\Commodore\C64\CD\Compilations\[ISO]\Commodore C64 - CD - Compilations - [ISO] (TOSEC-v2018-07-02_CM).dat (1 hit)
   Line 102:       <rom name="C64 Sensations (1996)(PDSoft).iso" size="514848768" crc="83aa2287" md5="79e5176de1371b65641272cd74bec9a0" sha1="98a078d26b071e6bab36dc83e31ebb172491ddc0"/>

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Re: 3DO Duplicate
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2021, 10:39:29 AM »
Some IBM:

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  C:\Program Files\ClrMamePro\datfiles\TOSEC-ISO\IBM\PC Compatibles\CD\Games\IBM PC Compatibles - CD - Games (TOSEC-v2018-11-20_CM).dat (1 hit)
   Line 328:       <rom name="Bioforge vf1.01 (1995)(Origin)(M3)[!].iso" size="174841856" crc="be17ddb6" md5="248521d56b190ae1e62bb98e5c9d0ce7" sha1="db7fdbaf2af6c7ecb9361312fac2041bb3eb1af8"/>
  C:\Program Files\ClrMamePro\datfiles\TOSEC-ISO\IBM\PC Compatibles\CD\Multimedia\IBM PC Compatibles - CD - Multimedia (TOSEC-v2012-07-13_CM).dat (1 hit)
   Line 63:       <rom name="Bioforge Playguide (1995)(Origin Systems).iso" size="174841856" crc="be17ddb6" md5="248521d56b190ae1e62bb98e5c9d0ce7" sha1="db7fdbaf2af6c7ecb9361312fac2041bb3eb1af8"/>

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Re: 3DO Duplicate
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2021, 10:47:45 AM »
I'm not convinced some of these are not just flat out errors...

We need some sort of checks in place for dupes. I used to do this sporadically when I had every single TOSEC file saved and unzipped in all branches, and used to CloneSpy the whole tree (but that aint happening again any time soon!).

Pand - is TOSEC-DB still a thing that is? Could some sort of duplicate checking of hashes be added to this? Obv I'm a bit out of the loop with whats been going on recently....


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Re: 3DO Duplicate
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2021, 10:48:39 AM »
Maybe to TDE more sensible....