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General Discussion / Re: Newbie Questions
« Last post by Maddog on October 03, 2019, 09:48:52 AM »
Go to Emulation Wiki. http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Main_Page
Start reading all relevant topics.
Should help you with the basics.
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General Discussion / Re: Newbie Questions
« Last post by NLS on October 03, 2019, 09:20:10 AM »
I think this is maybe a troll post, but anyway.
EDIT: Saw tomse's reply when I clicked to post this, but I spent a few minutes on this so I am not killing it.

Don't be offended, but I think you are in the wrong place for an "elementary school emulation training".
You need to find a more generic emulation oriented forum and ask this kind of questions, then spend some time (days, weeks, months) to get "used" to how things work in emulation.

That said, I will try to give you a very brief reply to your specific questions BUT each of these replies "hides" a whole... book behind it. So you need to dig deeper to actually grasp what is going on.

1) .dat files (in our context). The files that store "rom" information, including hash numbers (to verify validity of a file), proper naming of the filename etc.

2) .cue files. This is not related to emulation. One of the methods of ripping CD/DVD, is a multi file format (starting from just two, .cue being one of the two). Within the .cue file is described what files to expect to have the full "rip" of the disc and some basic details for them.
TOSEC collection includes .cue files because (a) they are not copyrighted in any way and (b) cannot easily be created from scratch if someone has just the disc image.

3) rom files. ROM files in general are called the dumps of various physical disks/discs or even actual ROM chips, needed to actually store software in a format understood by emulators. It is a very generic term and is actually a bogus name for many cases. But people are used to use it.
TOSEC does NOT include actual ROMs. You have to find them yourself in specialized fora/tracker sites etc. Some are more underground than others, depending on the possible copyright status of material stored.
TOSEC just catalogs rips even bad ones.

4) What emulators to use. This question cannot be answered. There are books written on the subject. Emulate what? ANYTHING? Well there is MAME that is the most massive emulation project out there. There are many others (and by many I mean MANY). Many emulators specific to systems (what system are you interested) etc. You need to do your own research on this... badly.

5) You miss all these roms because TOSEC doesn't include roms. You need to find them yourself. You actually don't NEED to. You probably are better off to find few specific roms of your favorite system, find a proper emulator (IF it exists) and try to run those (which is not always a matter of just pointing to the rom and running it - many systems have PLENTY of compatibility settings). Again read #4.

6) RomVault is a tool to verify/rebuild rom sets from dats. You need first to grasp what those two things are (not just by my description above).

7) There are guides for these things but most are not up to date. You really cannot just shortcut to something like that. You need to spend time and see how things work starting from way more basic things. Again, think of your favorite system, google for an emulator for it. Run it, "feel it", see how it works. Remember 2-3-5 (not more) of your favorite games. Find them (cannot give pointers to that, start simply by googling). Try to run them. Find a more generic emulation forum to ask your specific questions (and not questions like the above that whole books are written about - fact not exaggeration, I am actually writing my own too).

8 ) You need emulators or sometimes physical systems to run those "games". TOSEC doesn't catalog only games.

Also youtube may help you.

If you think you just discovered a wealth of fun, just lying there. You are right and wrong.
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General Discussion / Re: Newbie Questions
« Last post by tomse on October 03, 2019, 09:10:07 AM »
dat files are text files, you can open them up using your favorite text editor. They contain information about the hashvalue of a file and the name of the file.

Romvault reads the dat files and check your ToSort folder and compares any files there against the dat files. if there are any matches, RV will move the file according to your directory structure and rename it.
But you'll need to have the game stored locally.
TOSEC does not supply any games or emulators, only a database of registered software.

CUE files belong to ISO's

There are plenty of youtube vids on how to use RomVault, I'd suggest you take a look there.

In the essense, you'll need to provide the games yourself.
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General Discussion / Newbie Questions
« Last post by noobgamerkid on October 03, 2019, 02:49:08 AM »
What are .dat files, .cue files, and rom files? How can I use and play them? What emulators should I use?

Why do I need to organize them in RomVault? Why do I have 658297 roms missing?
Do you have a full guide about these things?

HOW DO I PLAY THOSE 'GAMES'!?

Sorry for asking these questions, I just don't understand anything one bit.
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TOSEC ISO / Re: TOSEC ISO - Amiga
« Last post by yori yoshizuki on September 20, 2019, 10:59:52 PM »
Sorry to resume an old topic but I'd suggest to redump these amy iso:

MaxonATLAS - Multimedialer Routenplaner v3.10 (1996)(Maxon Computer)(DE)

MaxonATLAS - Multimedialer Routenplaner v3.13 (1997)(Maxon Computer)(DE)

Gateway! v3 (1998)(Schatztruhe - GTI)(SW)(Disk 1 of 2)[NetBSD 1.3.2]

Gateway! v3 (1998)(Schatztruhe - GTI)(SW)(Disk 2 of 2)[NetBSD 1.3.2]

AmigaOS 3.5 (1999)(Haage & Partner)

Thanks
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General Discussion / Re: which DAT download to use for what situation
« Last post by ssybesma on September 02, 2019, 09:40:00 PM »
OK, I apologize for that...won't do it again.

I got much further with this and got ROMVault to scan, find and fix them...sort of.

What really ended up happening is that I started out with 1,379 ZIP'ed ROM files but I end up with 2,468.

I'm guessing that ROMVault uses the DAT files to not only fix whatever ZIP'ed game files it can recognize, but it seems to try and build brand new ZIP'ed games files from ROMs in the existing ones.

I learned that many individual ROM files are common to many games. The differences would be in a few of the ROMs which apply directly to the game's details.

I understand the ROM files represent individual chips that were dumped from the game's motherboard.  Some games had more chips than others. Some only have one.

So, the behavior of ROMVault was not what I was hoping for.

I simply was trying to run an app that recognizes what I have, what kind of machine it originally made for, and whether the contents were all there or not (and perhaps be able to fix them).

Steve
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General Discussion / Re: which DAT download to use for what situation
« Last post by Maddog on September 02, 2019, 08:56:47 PM »
I had to remove the link you posted, since it contains copyrighted games and we can't allow that in our forum.

Before removing, I did take a look. The zip you posted seems to contain only MAME roms and nothing else. Possibly it is not getting picked up by RomVault because you have not unpacked it (it is a zip containing other zips which in turn contain the actual roms). As far as I can tell, it does not contain any home console games.
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General Discussion / Re: which DAT download to use for what situation
« Last post by ssybesma on August 31, 2019, 10:31:14 PM »
Despite being able to load MAMEs and TOSECs DAT, I've not gotten any of these 1,379 ROMs to show up in ROMVault yet.

The zip file is called:  "1379retrobit games.zip"

It's located here:

Link removed-copyrighted content

They seem to be a mix of home videogame console and arcade. I know for sure some home videogame console ROMs are there.

The ROMs work on the Retro-Bit Super Retro-Cade but they were not created for it. They were just gathered together. My hope was to run it through ROMVault and straighten them out if any are not quite right.

That Retro-Bit device uses a Retroarch front end, but the emulator is not known...even Retro-Bit apparently doesn't know what emulator was used in that device:

https://www.libretro.com/index.php/category/retro-bit/

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General Discussion / Re: which DAT download to use for what situation
« Last post by ssybesma on August 31, 2019, 09:30:21 PM »
The create folder batch file created folders where I didn't expect.

The move batch file wiped everything out because I can't find where it moved everything to.

I'll have to figure out the instructions better as to where to put everything before I get started.

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UPDATE: got it right on the second try...instead of copying the folders containing the batch files, I copied the two batch files themselves to DATRoot\TOSEC so they're all in the same folder
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General Discussion / Re: C64 Turbo Tape dumps
« Last post by sharklodon on August 31, 2019, 12:20:51 PM »
Please, could you share again? links is down.
Thanks,
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