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Offline xvid

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Trash files in TI-83 and TI-82 dat files
« on: March 09, 2012, 11:27:11 AM »
The dat files for TI-83 and TI-82 contains some trash files.
Just search for "\." = 11 results,
for "MACOSX\" = 5 results,
for "name ." = 2 results,
for 'name ".' = 1 results,
for "\Thumbs.db" = 7 results

this files are affected

Texas Instruments TI-82 - Applications (TOSEC-v2010-09-06_CM).dat
Texas Instruments TI-83 - Applications (TOSEC-v2011-12-19_CM).dat
Texas Instruments TI-82 - Compilations - Applications (TOSEC-v2010-09-06_CM).dat
Texas Instruments TI-83 - Games (TOSEC-v2011-12-19_CM).dat
Texas Instruments TI-82 - Games (TOSEC-v2011-03-24_CM).dat

« Last Edit: March 09, 2012, 12:19:53 PM by xvid »



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Re: Trash files in TI-83 and TI-82 dat files
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2012, 01:40:31 PM »
hmmmmm...

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Re: Trash files in TI-83 and TI-82 dat files
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2012, 10:13:33 AM »
Thanks for that xvid.
Can't say much about that, hopefully someone connected to Texas systems can comment or fix them. :)

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Re: Trash files in TI-83 and TI-82 dat files
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2012, 11:14:13 AM »
This files are from Windows (Thumbs.db) and deleted files from Mac OS.
The author who made this dat files does not clean the archives befor he created the DATs.

You do not need to be connected to Texas systems to clean up zip files of PD software.

« Last Edit: March 12, 2012, 01:21:41 PM by xvid »

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Re: Trash files in TI-83 and TI-82 dat files
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2012, 11:19:29 AM »
The same happend here

http://www.tosecdev.org/index.php/forum/index.php?topic=392.0

it looks a bit unprofessional

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Re: Trash files in TI-83 and TI-82 dat files
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2012, 01:03:08 PM »
I did fix this files, here is the link

http://www.mediafire.com/?g1reg9mcggm2n5e
« Last Edit: March 12, 2012, 01:17:37 PM by xvid »

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Re: Trash files in TI-83 and TI-82 dat files
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2012, 10:57:41 AM »
I know what those files mean :P
Was just saying that we know about that (or part of it) because we had some previous internal talks about it. As TKaos already explained in one of your other topics the files were there in the original sets released by who programmed it.
The renamer of Texas (i think it was Diabol or Duncan but i'm not sure) decided to keep them as they were originally released, not removing any file. It was not a mistake but a choice and that can obviously be discussed.

Imho and without knowing the situation further i think they should probably be removed too since they are not part of the software and were (probably) added by mistake original. Anyway i understand the point used.

What do you think about it?

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Re: Trash files in TI-83 and TI-82 dat files
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2012, 09:48:54 AM »
Hi,

please check the fixed dat files, I did only remove files which did not come from the developer.
Only files which comes from the OS or folder structures which are part of the host system.

After this messages:

"should probably be removed too since they are not part of the software"
and
"It is kinda like the first IPF files in the Amiga DATs or the Enterprise DATs, thought there are a lot less "useless" files in those DATs. "

I did check the Amiga files and TI files again, and the Amiga files still contains files which are not part of the Software, JPGs, PDFs and XMLs, I think the come from Gamebase.

And the TI files have the same Problem, they contains screenshots and other stuff which are not part ot the software.

here is  a example from Commodore Amiga - Games - SPS (TOSEC-v2011-11-01_CM).dat

game (
   name "Wizard Warz (1988)(GO!)[0001]"
   description "Wizard Warz (1988)(GO!)[0001]"
   rom ( name Box_back.jpg size 995690 crc d1c45fb7 md5 055a64ebbb1bdbc223b46c95781289c6 sha1 87d90089eb135bb023bcba5aa011bff18eeb63fc )
   rom ( name Box_front.jpg size 1060855 crc 631cf271 md5 62ed72e5197833759c6bc9618637abc3 sha1 3296885f50652d5890ac19fbb77b902f63e1b817 )
   rom ( name Box_side_bottom.jpg size 154366 crc 50a81a9b md5 6ee850801dac504771a030b88cd41df9 sha1 09b88c5fec5a45e60981005671ad8556489c6f44 )
   rom ( name Box_side_left.jpg size 104155 crc 7f6e1320 md5 4bddeecd6acb86f22e762382a75353a3 sha1 0671c0ed9a7c877bb0dc4f111dbb1dcb88ecd0fd )
   rom ( name Box_side_right.jpg size 104219 crc ce93a29e md5 9387b30e279aa1f7701d1dbb9661c829 sha1 ed03e33253a025d88d3e201ca7d23baa3fd311da )
   rom ( name Box_side_top.jpg size 164910 crc 2ea40395 md5 b2a577713b74fff551262f5679c27053 sha1 aa0db754189694e9611c9c347ebc64a3d208704f )
   rom ( name Disk.jpg size 149805 crc fdb5d5aa md5 ab21c05f55c2eca139f97e9a2aec1c49 sha1 3cc7378a32a272a688b394a6138122e27b9174d7 )
   rom ( name gameinfo.xml size 3076 crc d4111374 md5 780f056474f4b968f4683bf33b13d385 sha1 338050c8c9ae60094b5d15acc19cbdf7a4992086 )
   rom ( name GuideToMonsters.jpg size 1035389 crc 8ed50196 md5 f00dc4dc926bf6acc5ad22a1d4f44288 sha1 bb0f6b30fd55ddbfb79511b3e2ed63b716dca4a3 )
   rom ( name GuideToSpells.jpg size 607200 crc 3a415072 md5 2381aca1862ffa879a5c02c5b5c8c458 sha1 d9cd159aa50aedc8a4ad0a078f7e31f6fde3fa92 )
   rom ( name Letter.png size 671710 crc 09976811 md5 38a50612f4792452f0e4747fc7ea7f01 sha1 31a453a472ccb92bae1c0887837361bda661b87f )
   rom ( name LoadingAddendum.png size 211243 crc 7da54440 md5 5322fa7b0b6085b33a69b4e13428762e sha1 a7bbe9d07816be9dc2119a5cf2bd0cd407edaa13 )
   rom ( name Manual.pdf size 4908522 crc 255ceaa7 md5 6acf79cd4fe6c65ad82928935b5bd207 sha1 b3c5fd7ef0dce88f9ff7c5aca1ea0a6fd8c32b80 )
   rom ( name WizardWarz.info size 10501 crc e26ed682 md5 dcb34720f969bebb041db88b88963ce7 sha1 4db6becd24981aa0b6c4f912992485101f94e5d1 )
   rom ( name WizardWarz.ipf size 235820 crc 1dcd8a40 md5 6cf4d3093f1f0e158103f68073c72769 sha1 6453d0e087f3201b4d5dd2c4c2baa1289882915b )
)

In this case the files should be removed, because they comes not from the developer, they comes from a other collector and they are for a other programm (Gamebase).

this is a example from Texas Instruments TI-82 - Applications (TOSEC-v2010-09-06_CM).dat

game (
   name "Winfix v2.0 (2001)(The Raven)"
   description "Winfix v2.0 (2001)(The Raven)"
   rom ( name Readme.txt size 327 crc 95e52e3b md5 d3f1e6cba03c376b777f99199b43000a )
   rom ( name Screenshot.JPG size 4586 crc 6abf7955 md5 f023a9a6fa64a3d49c4da8ef98003950 )
   rom ( name WINFIX.82P size 532 crc d0ba2f25 md5 39345a169d898019a39bf3b7dc60df8c )
)

I don't think a screenshot is part of the software, it is also not guaranteed that this files is from the developer. I suppose that most of the files are downloaded from a PD site and zipped by the downloader, and so the archives contains also HTML, JPG and GIF files. I don't know it, but I think a TI-83 cannot open a JPG file ...

Some of the TI archives a very dirty, or what do you tink about files like "visit my site.url" and "Animation File Watch me!!.gif" ?
« Last Edit: March 14, 2012, 10:21:06 AM by xvid »

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Re: Trash files in TI-83 and TI-82 dat files
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2012, 04:55:19 PM »
The Amiga SPS DAT contains releases made by the SPS team, you can read about their project here http://www.softpres.org/

This is the reason why those sets contain various files which for you seem to be useless, it was done for a reason.
There were about 25(?) SPS releases with those files, after that the team stopped to pack all together and only the IPF files were available, that's why there's only a bunch of bigger ZIP files in that DAT but the idea was to have software+manual+boxart in the DAT.

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Re: Trash files in TI-83 and TI-82 dat files
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2012, 12:33:07 PM »
Manuals and boxart in the same archive like the software? Should it better to split such a archive and move the "documentation" part to the TOSEC PIX dats?

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Re: Trash files in TI-83 and TI-82 dat files
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2012, 12:47:44 PM »
I did not really understand the sense of the SPS dat.
Did SPS releaes or rerelease these games?
They did only the same like TOSEC, they did create a dat file "artefacts.xml" for existing IPF files and add to these archives some pics.
Gamesbase does the same, should there also be a dat file and new archives with the ADF files and some pics?
« Last Edit: March 15, 2012, 12:49:23 PM by xvid »

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Re: Trash files in TI-83 and TI-82 dat files
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2012, 03:59:28 PM »
The IPF files are 1:1 copies of the original files, including the copyprotection withing the disks, ADF files for example often have the copy protection removed and aren't the original disk file.
It's well explained on their site, well maybe we should move all those files elsewhere, problem with the PIX DATs is that they only accept PDF files of everything, we dont have the files as PDF, dont know if it would be good to just convert those.

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Re: Trash files in TI-83 and TI-82 dat files
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2012, 09:10:41 AM »
TKaos - these misc files will be added to PIX in the near future.  Also the SPS dats will need to be updated as there are many new games not included in the last dats.

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Re: Trash files in TI-83 and TI-82 dat files
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2012, 12:16:11 PM »
Re SPS, funnily enough was looking at those DATs pre-release as there's changes I want to make (but didn't have the time), including adding in the latest releases. Will look to doing this in the near future.

Re TI, similarly was thinking on these as well as they definitely need revisiting. I know there's a few different opinions here on how to handle these, but I'm not sure any are 100% correct tbh. Will add these to the list to look at in near future too.


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Re: Trash files in TI-83 and TI-82 dat files
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2012, 02:19:36 PM »
Cassiel, remember i started looking at those dats last year, have a look on the ftp to see the progress i made ;)