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Offline guigui69

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How do you find enough space for TOSEC ?
« on: August 14, 2012, 08:23:05 AM »
Hello

For people who have the entire TOSEC database / pix / iso, where do you stock the datas ?

are you using RAID technology (for example 3x 2 Tb HDD ?)



Offline Cassiel

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Re: How do you find enough space for TOSEC ?
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2012, 09:32:27 AM »
Well speaking for myself I have a pooled group of hard drives on my main PC that I use as my primary data partition (TOSEC, movies/music etc). Backed up to a RAID DAS.

Hard drives are pretty cheap now, the issue I find is one of physical space! Can't really fit any more discs into my HTPC case....

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Re: How do you find enough space for TOSEC ?
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2012, 11:55:32 AM »
Since i don't have / collect any sets i don't suffer from any of those problems :D
Fortunately i'm more interested in cataloging the information, still i stopped doing it long ago precisely due to the lack of space and time.

You will probably find that most of the guys following this and other projects will have several HDDs with various TBs. It gets a lot worse with more newer systems and optical media.

I've considered before to build a NAS system with a few TBs and RAID (more about security of the data than speed) but the high initial investment always set me back.

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Re: How do you find enough space for TOSEC ?
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2012, 02:49:10 PM »
i asked this because i use since yesterday the rom manager "ROMVAULT" (i saw you use it also, pandemonium^^ you posted on Romsheperd)

and on this tool, it seems we can't choose another folder outside "romroot" folder so it forces us to have TOSEC TOSEC ISO and TOSEC pix , subfolders of RomRoot
i was looking at HDD . now we can get 3TB HDD for 150 € (western digital), but it's not enough for the entire TOSEC which is 3.5 TB

i was thinking about a RAID 2x 3tb dedicated for TOSEC

Romvault is for me "the new TIM" i loved (i really appreciated your TIM tool some years ago, really deceived it has been discontinued) . but it lacks options (at this moment but the beta seems great)

Anyway thank you for your answers !
« Last Edit: August 14, 2012, 02:54:47 PM by guigui69 »

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Re: How do you find enough space for TOSEC ?
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2012, 03:36:08 PM »
You mean 'Romulus' right? 'ROMVault' is another (though apparently also very good) manager.

I'd recommend contacting F0XHOUND regarding any suggestions like this. He's usually very open to suggestions and quick to implement (and is a former TOSEC member as well!).

TIM is very much dead I'm afraid. I was always a big fan (always very supportive of having our own client/manager) but as PandMonium can confirm, the it was VERY buggy and would pretty much need to be re-written from scratch if its ever resurrected.

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Re: How do you find enough space for TOSEC ?
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2012, 03:41:26 PM »

no no cassiel, i speak of Romvault for TOSEC.

Romulus seems fine also but i prefer Romvault for TOSEC (because he works like TIM, using the possibility to transfer all roms automaticely in the good folders)
Romulus i tried this morning only seems for me a "mix" between CMpro (30%) and Romcenter (70%)

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Re: How do you find enough space for TOSEC ?
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2012, 03:46:11 PM »
Oh, sorry... thought you meant Romulus after (semi-)following the current conversation over at RS.

Well same goes, if ROMVault could do with something adding to it then I'm sure GordonJ would appreciate the feedback.

I've been using CMP for YEARS (as well as TIM when we used it for DAT management of course!), but been meaning to try one of these new tools and see how they stack up....

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Re: How do you find enough space for TOSEC ?
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2012, 03:54:11 PM »
yes i see you're on RS :)  In fact, at this moment, i'm in my "roms" period ^^ i like to reorganize, collect, classify , like you i think^^

CMpro is hard for me, i didn't know how to simply "update" a Dat i created. :/ i was forced to create another one to replace the old one. maybe do you know how to do ?
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Re: How do you find enough space for TOSEC ?
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2012, 04:02:17 PM »
Well, when it appears in 'New DATs' if you double click it it should recognise it is an update to an existing DAT (if it is of course!) and ask you if you want to update. This is the way TOSEC DATs are since we only increase the date/version and the rest of the meta-data stays the same.

This is how most DATs should be (TOSEC and non-TOSEC), but if you gat a stubborn one that thinks it 'new' rather than 'updated', what you need to do is select 'Update' when given the 4 options of 'Update', 'Use default'(?), 'Use internal'(?) and 'Cancel'. Then select the existing DAT it should replace.

All existing settings should be imported, and the 'old' (now replaced) DAT removed.

Make sense?

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Re: How do you find enough space for TOSEC ?
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2012, 04:05:50 PM »
thank for your explains, i take care the next time i try to update a DAT i created or so. For example, i'd like to update an existing dat (AMIGA REMIX (2009) to 2012.

i'm thinking about to create a DAT for AMSTRAD PCW (and integrate on TOSEC because it's really the best answer for this kind of dat) but i'm unable to use "Joyce" with bootdisc because i don't know the commands to launch the roms.

really hard when no tutorial on internet :/
« Last Edit: August 14, 2012, 04:08:33 PM by guigui69 »

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Re: How do you find enough space for TOSEC ?
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2012, 05:31:19 PM »
Just a quick reply but i think you can have dats in different folders and even drives using romvault. Just try to right click some tree node and i *think* it lets you select a new root folder for it.

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Re: How do you find enough space for TOSEC ?
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2012, 07:57:06 PM »
in fact there is a concept of "tree" or "flat" mode , i didn't really understand.
the Romroot structure is the mirror of the datroot structure.

So in the datroot folder, i use your tosec dat pack.
i must really congratulate you for your useful script ! " create folders & move.bat" !
Very usefull for romvault !