Proposed NES dat modifications

[Zandro]

Heyos, I've started the arduous task of sorting roms by game, US region bias for later merging (expecting >90% reduction in storage size).  While doing so, I guess I should suggest any changes I feel need to be made, to whoever's still driving this bus.  I'm more of a nitpicker than an auditor, so bear with me.  My posts may be few inbetween, but I really want to keep plucking away at this until it's done, just to say it's been done.  I have finished clrmamepro merge dats (US bias naming only) for SNES-Games, N64-Games and Genesis-Games already, saving a considerable amount of disk space (20-25 GB vs uncompressed).

10 Yard Fight / 10-Yard Fight -- inconsistent hyphenation
8 Eye's -- inappropriate apostrophe
Adventures of DinoRiki -- space between "Dino" and "Riki"
Aladdin - The Return of Jaffar -- hack of "Astyanax"
Aladdin 2 (199x)(-)(AS)[p] -- rename to "Aladdin II", provide publisher (Sachen)
Aladdin 3 (1995)(-)(AS)[p] -- "Magic Carpet 1001" from "Caltron - 6 in 1"
Aobocco Wars (199x)(-)(JP)[p][!] -- rename to "Robocco Wars"
Arctic (* -- provide publisher (Pony Canyon)
Arkanoid 2 -- rename to "Arkanoid II" for consistency, or refute all other numerals

Batsu & Terry -- rename to "Bats & Terry"
(UNF) BB Car (1991)(-)(AS)[p][!] -- hack of "Mi Hun Che - BB Car"
Bigfoot (1991)(Acclaim)(EU)[!] -- 1991-01-24
Bikkuri Nekketsu Shin Kiroku! - Harukanaru Kin Medal (19xx)* -- 1992-06-26
(UNF) Boku Koku Shuu Kin - The World of Card Game
 -- rename to "World of Card Games, The", provide publisher (Sachen)
Boogerman (199x)* -- 1997, hack of Boogerman (199x)(Sugar Softec)(AS)[p][!]
Batman Flash * -- hack of "Monster In My Pocket"

China Rabbit Baby (199x)(-)(AS)[p][!] -- hack of Mickey Mania
Chip & Dale 3 * -- hack of Heavy Barrel
Chip'n Dale- Rescue Rangers (1987)(Capcom USA)(PlayChoice-10) -- conform name
Colorful Dragon (1989)(Sachen)(TW)[p][SA-005] -- hack of "Tagin' Dragon" or viceversa
Colour 2001 Streetfighter II (199x)(-)(AS)[p][!][The King of Fighters '97 - Rex Soft]
 -- consider order of "The" in tag: [The King of Fighters '97 - Rex Soft]
Contra Spirits (199x)(-)(AS)[p][!] -- hack of "Super C"
Cross Fire * -- Remove space, boxart and title show "CrossFire"
Cvetnie Linii (199x)(-)(AS)(ru)[p][!] -- translation: "Color Lines"

D.J. Boy (199x)(-)(AS)[p] -- hack of "Rollergames"
Darkwing Duck 2 * -- hack of "Super C"
Datach - * -- Relocate label (example: "Crayon Shin Chan - Ora to Poi Poi (Datach)"
Domkey Kong (199x)(-)(AS)[p][!] -- hack of "Tiny Toon Adventures"
Dong Fang de Chuan Shuo - The Hyrule Fantasy * -- hack of "Legend of Zelda, The"
Double Dragon IV (199x)(-)(AS)[p] -- hack of "Target- Renegade"
Dr Web *  -- hack of "Dr. Mario"

Family Computer Othello (1986-10-13)(Kawada)(JP)[h][FDS to NES] -- 1986-11-13 ?
Felix vs Jerry (199x)(-)(AS)[p][!] -- hack of "Tiny Toon Adventures"
FIFA 97 International Soccer (199x)(-)(AS)[p][!] -- hack of "Tecmo World Cup Soccer"
Forcity (199x)(-)(AS)[p][!] -- hack of "Jackal"

Garou Densetsu Special * -- misattributed to "Cony Soft", should be "[JY-116]" (?)
Ghostbusters 2 * -- rename to "Ghostbusters II"
Goal 3 (199x)(-)(AS)[p][!] -- hack of "Kunio Kun no Nekketsu Soccer League"
Golden (19xx)(-)(AS)[p][!][AT-33C] -- hack of "Tom & Jerry"
Grand Combat (199x)(-)(AS)[p][!] -- hack of "Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers"

Harry Story * -- rename to "Harry's Legend"
Harry Story (199x)(-)(AS)[!] -- hack of "Wacky Races"
Heroes of the Lance * -- ren to "Advanced Dungeons & Dragons - Heroes of the Lance"
Hi-Game 1999 - Rayban the Third (1999)(-)(AS)[p][!] -- hack of "Lupin Sansei"
Hillsfar * -- rename to "Advanced Dungeons & Dragons - Hillsfar"
Houma ga Toki * -- rename to "Jekyll Hakase no Houma ga Toki"

Ji Jia Zhan Shi * -- hack of "Metal Max"
Jing Ke Xin Zhuan (199x)(-)(TW)[p] -- identify source rom (if not original)
Journey to West (1994)(TXC)(TW)[h TPU] -- rename to "Journey to the West"

Kujaku Ou 2 (1990-08-21)(Pony Canyon)(JP)[!] -- rename to "Kujaku Ou II"

Lipple Island * -- rename to "Ripple Island" (Rippuru Airando)
Little Mermaid (199x)(-)(JP)[p][!] -- rename to "Little Mermaid - Ningyo Hime"

M.C. Mario (199x)(-)(AS)[p][!] -- hack of "M.C. Kids"
Magic Jewelry 2 (1991)(RCM)(AS)[p][!] -- rename to "Magic Jewelry II"
Magistr v1.0 (199x)(-)(RU)[p][!] -- hack of "Subor v1.0"
Mahjong Companion - Roppongi Hen (1990)(Hacker International)(JP)[p][!]
 -- hack of "Mahjong Companion - Roppongi Hen (1990)(Sachen)"
(UNF) Mahjong Summit Kabukicho Hen (1990)(Hacker International)(JP)[p][!]
 -- hack of "Mahjong World, The (1990)(Sachen)"
Majou Densetsu 2 - Daimashikyou Galious *
 -- rename to "Majou Densetsu II - Daimashikyou Galious"
Mari, Ayami, Luka no AV Poker - Pu Nu Jing Ling -- hack of "Peek-A-Boo Poker" (?)
Mario 16 * -- hack of "Joe & Mac", same as "Super Mario 16"
Mario Baby (199x)(-)(AS)[p] -- hack of "Bio Miracle Bokutte Upa"
Mario Kart Rider (199x)(-)(AS)[h][p][ripped from Super 8 in 1] -- hack of "Top Rider"
Matsumoto Tooru no Kabushiki Hisshou Gaku 2 * -- rename to "... II"
Megaman Plus (200x)(Hyper MegaMan Z)[h][Mega Man] -- hack of "Mega Man 2", not 1
Mickey Mouse -- rename to "Mickey Mousecapade"
Mighty Morphin Power Rangers (1999)(-)(AS)[p][!][VT-3064B Super][Power Rangers 2]
 -- hack of "Kyouryuu Sentai Juuranger"
Missile Tank * -- hack of "Battle City"
Money Game 2, The - Kabutochou no Kiseki * -- rename to "Money Game II, The - ..."

... AV World Soccer * -- hack of "Ultimate League Soccer"
Night Arrow (199x)(-)(AS)[p] -- hack of "Galaxian"
Nihonichi no Mei Kantoku * -- rename to "Nippon Ichi no Nakantoku" or similar

Pac-Man 3 (2003)(DahrkDaiz)[h][Ms Pac-Man] -- change origin tag to "[Ms. Pac-Man]"
Palamedes 2 - Star Twinkles (1991-05-17)(Hot B)(JP) -- rename to "Palamedes II - ..."
Papillon Gals (1989)(Hacker International)(AS)[p][!] -- hack of "Galactic Crusader"
Pikachu (199x)(-)(AS)[p] -- hack of "Tiny Toon Adventures"
Pikachu Y2K * -- hack of "Felix the Cat"
PinBot (1988)(Rare)(PlayChoice-10) -- conform name
Pokemon - Blue Version (19xx)(-)(AS)[p][!][K1911] -- hack of "Wacky Races"
Pokemon - Green Version (19xx)(-)(AS)[p][!][K1912]
 -- hack of "Kero Kero Keroppi no Daibouken 2 - Donuts Ike ha Oosawagi!"
Pokemon - Silver Version * -- hack of "Little Nemo - The Dream Master"
Pokemon - Yellow Version (19xx)(-)(AS)[p][!][K1910] -- hack of "Felix the Cat"
Pokemon 2000 (199x)(-)(AS)[p][!] -- hack of "Mitsume ga Tooru"
Poker (1990)(Hacker International) * -- hack of "Peek-A-Boo Poker" (?)
Pool of Radiance * -- rename to "Advanced Dungeons & Dragons - Pool of Radiance"
Popeye 2 (1995)(-)(AS)[p][!][JY-031] -- hack of "Aladdin" (or hw-select cart?)
Power Rangers 4 (1998-01)(-)(AS)[p][!][JY-016]
 -- hack of "Mighty Morphin Power Rangers III (1998-01)(-)(AS)[p][!][JY-059]"
Pravila Doroznogo Dvizenija (19xx)(-)(RU)[!] -- provide publisher (A. Tchudov)

Redaktor Tekstov (199x)(-)(AS)(ru)[p][!] -- provide publisher (A. Tchudov)
Return of the Jedi (199x)(-)(AS)[p] -- hack of "Zen - Intergalactic Ninja"
Robocop 3 (1992)(Ocean)(EU)[!] -- rename to "RoboCop 3"
RoboCop 4 * -- hack of "RoboCop 3"
Rockman 5 (1996)(-)(AS)[p][!][R-M5] -- hack of "Darkwing Duck"
Rockman 7 * -- hack of "Mega Man 6" (or "Rockman 6")
Rocman X (199x)(-)(AS)[p][!] -- provide publisher (Sachen)
RumbleStation 15 in 1 * -- probably should have pirate tag "[p]"

Sekiryuuou * -- rename to "Sekiryuou" (?)
Sexy Pyramid - Cleopatra KiKi Ippatsu * -- hack of "Pyramid"
Shaffle Fight * -- rename to "Shuffle Fight"
Simba's v1.0 (199x)(-)(RU)[p][!] -- hack of "Subor v1.0"
Skykid * -- rename to "Sky Kid" or "SkyKid"
Snake Rattle'n Roll (1991-03-27)(Nintendo)(EU) -- conform name
Somari * -- hack of "Sonic 3D Blast 5" (actually "Sonic the Hedgehog", where is it?)
Sonic (199x)(-)(AS)[p][!] -- hack of "Hudson's Adventure Island"
Street Fighter III - Mari Turbo (199x)(-)(AS)[p] -- hack of "Street Fighter III"
Street Fighter V (199x)(-)(AS)[p][!] -- hack of "Street Fighter VI 12 Peoples"
Suikan Pipe (199x)(-)(AS)[p][!] -- hack of "Gimmick!"
Super Contra 6 * -- hack of "Contra Force"
Super Contra 8 (1999)(ESC)(AS)[p][!] -- hack of "Super Contra 7", which is absent
Super Contra II * -- hack of "Contra"
Super Mario 9 (19xx)(-)(AS)[p][!][K1107] -- hack of "Adventure Island II"
Super Mario 14 (199x)(-)(AS)[p][S-M7] -- hack of "Kaiketsu Yanchamaru 3"
Super Mario 16 * -- hack of "Joe & Mac", same as "Mario 16"
Super Mario Bros IV (199x)(IGS)(AS)[p][!] -- hack of "Armadillo"
Super Mario Bros. 6 (199x)(-)(AS)[p] -- hack of "Tiny Toon Adventures"
Super Mario Bros. + Tetris + Nintendo World Cup
 -- add "3-in-1" or remove from that of related
Super Mario Kart Raider (199x)(-)(AS)[p][!] -- "Rider", hack of "Top Rider"
Super Mario USA * -- hack of "Super Mario Bros. 2"
Super Mary (19xx)(-)(AS)[p][!] -- hack of "Super Mario Bros."
Super Sonic 5 (1997)(-)(AS)[p][!][NT-875] -- hack of "Sonic the Hedgehog"
SuperSpike V'Ball * -- rename to "Super Spike V'Ball"

Tiny Toon Adventures 4 * -- hack of "Bugs Bunny Birthday Blowout, The"
Toita Basketball (19xx)(-)(AS)[p] -- hack of "Ultimate Basketball"
Top Gun III (1993)(-)(AS)[p][!] -- hack of "Flight of the Intruder"
Triathron, The * -- (please) rename to "Triathlon, The"

Uncle Fester's Quest- The Addams Family (1989)(Sunsoft)(PlayChoice-10)
 -- rename to "Fester's Quest" for conformity
Urban Strike (199x)(-)(AS)[h][p][ripped from 4 in 1 NG-011, mapper 1]
 -- hack of "Cobra Command"

Xing Ji Wu Shi - Super Fighter * -- hack of "Street Fighter VI 12 Peoples"

* AV * -- adjust naming to account for large character counts, sorting (my own wish)


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[PandMonium]

Hi Zandro,

Like i said to you i'm not sure if Cassiel or other still maintain those dats but hope someone can fix that. I really like the notes you gave and i know it also happens in other systems (and worst). For example in C64 between dats for different file formats there are several versions of the same title or other values, that's why one of my/our goals is to get it sorted out via lists of "valid values".
Can't tell you much more now cause my desktop is shut down but maybe later i can give you some more examples or useful lists

[Cassiel]

I've never maintained the NES/Famicom DATs, your thinking of 'etabeta'.

I don't believe they are still active so I'm sure any contributions would be welcome.

Remember that some title variations can differ across regional releases though (and being convenient for 7zip/goodmerge or equivalent - I'm assuming that's what you doing - isn't a good enough reason to change it IMO). Just something to be careful off. Like PanMonium hinted at, *.NES versus *.UNF titles is an excellent example of where they absolutely should match however.

BTW: Why the American bias anyway? (yes, I'm stirring) 

[Zandro]

Hi Cassiel, my naming is being based strictly on the current names--I will not be 'adjusting' them to suit my specifications.  Through glancing, I'm simply looking for additions of tag info to offer, revealing associations, or suggesting title inaccuracies that may be easily proved otherwise, as I continue to use, without modification, the dat's current names as parents.

Hm.. this NES->UNF association did not occur to me.  I'll now take that into account and mark any of the above, and further, that have this relation.

And yes, I admit it--I was born and raised in the USA, so that's the way I'll continue to go.  Others are free to ask for the dat to change the order over to theirs if they want.. I have not yet learned how to tie that in based on region prioritization, and I assume it would have to be done manually anyway, following the completion of my dat.

Also, I'll be using clrmamepro's dirtodat and a rebuild to wrap the test raw product in zips with no compression, following up with torrent7z (t7z.sf.net).

[Zandro]

Just checking in... *points up*  I've been at it  About 3/4 done I'd say, and it seems my main talent is matching hacks with their originals.  I'm double-posting to share a couple of excellent resources I've discovered for myself just tonight, yet I could've used them many many times earlier on!

http://cah4e3.shedevr.org.ru/cartsbase.php - Great to fill in those missing tags, this will save me having to fill in lots of reports I was planning on scribbling later (tagging stuff only, I'll continue to report relations).
http://famicomworld.com/game-list/ - This may actually be based on TOSEC, but if not, not bad.

[PandMonium]

Good findings i guess
As for the list i think it wasn't based on TOSEC, there are a bunch of other great projects out there too Anyway i just say this because they have some fields like "ID" that i think we don't (if yes it would be in more info on nes dats).

Good sources of information, a shame we don't have many renamers currently but at least it will be here in case anyone wants to do something with it

[haynor666]

Help for NES is very needed. I'm glad you take NES part Zandro. Good work