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Offline Trackah123

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Amiga TOSEC Contribution
« on: April 30, 2010, 02:35:53 PM »
Hi Guys.

I want to help a bit, im new to this all but Mai told me he thought i could do a proper job so i should ask here.
Im currently checking all the Amiga-musicdisks and i saw some errors. I'm into Amiga-stuff lately  :)

I hope i can help voluntary now and then and give some contributions.

Here is an example-list of what i've found so far yesterday while checking the Letter A of the musicdisks.

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Amazing Amiga Tune 10 (19xx)(Switch).adf
(Has checksum errors) should have a [b] behind it?

All Time Greatest Hits 09 (1992)(Static Bytes)[KS2.0].adf
All Time Greatest Hits 10 (1992)(Static Bytes)[KS2.0].adf
These 2 work better in Kickstart 1.3. so it would be without the [KS2.0] label?

Amiga 500 Demo (19xx)(Commodore)(de).adf
Its not German language but Dutch so (de) changed into (nl)?
Also its not even a musicdisk, should be put into Slideshow folder?

Amiga Dynamics '92 (1992)(Pacific 202).adf
Read write error on 2nd song. [b] and also a virus on it (try with kick 3.0 to see virus message on bootblock).

Amiga Horror Show (1988)(Slammer).adf
2nd animation doesnt work [b] and not a musicdisk, move to "Animations and Videos"

Amigadeus II (19xx)(Rob Baxter)(Disk 1 of 2).adf
Amigadeus II (19xx)(Rob Baxter)(Disk 2 of 2).adf
Only works properly in Kickstart 2.0 or higher so [KS2.0] added?

Amplifier I, The (1991)(Dimension 4).adf
5th song crashes Amiga "menomono". Maybe a [b]

Amplifier II, The (1991)(Dimension 4)(Disk 1 of 2).adf
Amplifier II, The (1991)(Dimension 4)(Disk 2 of 2).adf
4th song crashes Amiga "House". Maybe a [b]
« Last Edit: April 30, 2010, 02:37:42 PM by Trackah123 »



Offline PandMonium

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Re: Amiga TOSEC Contribution
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2010, 02:57:35 PM »
Hi Trackah123,

Help is always wanted and you're free to contribute, as always i can't really comment on most of the errors but some of them seem logical and should be fixed. For some of the bad dumps a descriptor could be added in order to identify what is bad with the image instead of just tagging it with [ b].

Lets see what some of the other guys say about it but feel free to keep checking and reporting it so they can be fixed later :)

Thanks and keep around :P

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Re: Amiga TOSEC Contribution
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2010, 03:07:36 PM »
Ok what descriptors do you use for the [ b ] tag?

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Re: Amiga TOSEC Contribution
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2010, 04:01:15 PM »
You can see (really) few examples in TNC (here). Unfortunately i don't have a complete & updated list right here currently but the descriptor should be just a small string that describes +- the problem if identified.

We aim to use the same "descriptor" whenever it is possible to avoid redundancy, so if you see one that was already used and is the one you need you should use it instead of creating a new variation. Obviously if it doesn't fit you should create a new one instead of using something incorrect :P

Actually i have some lists in xml that i use with my tools / db and will see what i can do :P
« Last Edit: April 30, 2010, 05:14:38 PM by PandMonium »

Offline Trackah123

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Re: Amiga TOSEC Contribution
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2010, 04:20:52 PM »
Yes, i need proper list of flags etc, filename structure all in 1 file. So i can properly rename them.

Do you know a easy to use tool for renaming etc with dats and roms. i tried romvault but it moved all my folders and then the app crashed :D good thing i have a backup.

I'm not familiar with these rom/dat dbtools so thats why i need a easy to use one.

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Re: Amiga TOSEC Contribution
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2010, 04:40:47 PM »
About the kickstart 2.0 stuff, the [more info] field shows the info about the real mashine and not an emulator, so you would have to test them on a Amiga with kick 2.0, don't know how you tested those but I just guess it was via emulator. :)

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Re: Amiga TOSEC Contribution
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2010, 04:47:37 PM »
Yes by WinUAE indeed.

Unfortunately i dont own a real kick 2.0 machine.. only an A500 (1.2/1.3 KICK) and A1200 (3.0/3.1 KICK).
As you can see im really new to all this  :)
« Last Edit: April 30, 2010, 04:56:16 PM by Trackah123 »

Offline PandMonium

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Re: Amiga TOSEC Contribution
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2010, 05:27:41 PM »
Ok here you have it:
TOSEC BadDump Descriptors
Just built a xsl to show the xml in an useful format, hope it is enough for now :P
Please note that some of those flags are duplicated like i told you before and were/should be fixed, later i might include information about the valid / invalid ones too.

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Re: Amiga TOSEC Contribution
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2010, 05:49:13 PM »
Took a look at it.
Tho it seems that "read-write error" and "checksum error" are the most common ones i guess.

Also is it bad to test it all under WinUAE? i mean its pretty accurate nowadays compared to the real thing.
Amiga's are so old now, i could test it but i couldnt say if the disk is bad or my Amiga :D

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Re: Amiga TOSEC Contribution
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2010, 06:51:32 PM »
Its always the best choice to check sets via the real machine, but noone can require to do so, it would take you too much time.
WinUAE is nearly perfect emulator present day!

"read-write error" and "checksum error" is one and the same error, i have always used descriptor "checksum error" for both.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2010, 06:53:54 PM by mai »

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Re: Amiga TOSEC Contribution
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2010, 07:50:17 PM »
Talking about WinUAE, version 2.1.0 was released two days ago :P

I'm just posting an update to the lists, spent some time doing them all, it was something needed anyway since i think it will be useful and make my work easier.

TOSEC Alternate Descriptors
TOSEC Bad Dump Descriptors
TOSEC Copyright Flags
TOSEC Countries
TOSEC Demo Flags
TOSEC Development Flags
TOSEC Fix Descriptors
TOSEC Languages
TOSEC Media Types
TOSEC Modification Descriptors
TOSEC System Flags
TOSEC Video Types
TOSEC Virus

Those are the ones that you might find useful, in the next weeks i will try to update them and mark the invalid ones. There are some other lists but you will not need them i guess (companies and systems, file formats and so on)

Anything more, just ask :P

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Re: Amiga TOSEC Contribution
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2010, 08:40:54 PM »
Thanks for the info, i will continue with the Amiga-musicdisks. But i'll use WinUAE since its really good nowadays and easy to use.

As for the KS2.0 ones i could try them in my real A1200 and A500 to see which one works best.

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Re: Amiga TOSEC Contribution
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2010, 02:08:14 PM »
I'm not saying you should check all files on a real machine, just saying that those file relevant to a specific hardware like the kickstarts should be checked with it because as far as i remember the [KS 2.0] etc. more info fields were all made up by the use of the real machine.
« Last Edit: May 01, 2010, 02:11:29 PM by TKaos »