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Offline idoru

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Re: Amiga renaming suggestions
« Reply #30 on: March 15, 2010, 06:00:16 PM »
no :P

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Re: Amiga renaming suggestions
« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2010, 12:39:35 AM »
Error in Amiga Games SPS:

Paladin v1.0e (1988)(Artronic)[2982]

wrong description in DAT ('Paladin_2982')

**fixed (idoru)**
« Last Edit: March 28, 2010, 03:34:34 PM by idoru »

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Re: Amiga renaming suggestions
« Reply #32 on: May 03, 2010, 03:53:51 PM »
In Applications:

Music Craft v0.99 (1985)(-).adf
= Musicraft v0.99 (1985)(-).adf

(maybe the release is called Music Craft, but this beta version says Musicraft)

Offline PandMonium

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Re: Amiga renaming suggestions
« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2010, 02:40:10 PM »
In Amiga Demos or Slideshows (don't know for sure):

Erection Collection (199x)(Reflex)[XXX]
is AGA.

Don't know more details, just that "it comes up AGA only". Was reported to me on IRC by Symmo.

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Re: Amiga renaming suggestions
« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2010, 07:11:12 PM »
I am not sure of the usage of the b flag, its because of counting.
What usage is the right one?
Example, if i have this sets:
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Dragon Fighter (1991)(Idea)(Disk 2 of 2)[b missing files]
Dragon Fighter (1991)(Idea)(Disk 2 of 2)[b checksum error]

or

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Dragon Fighter (1991)(Idea)(Disk 2 of 2)[b missing files]
Dragon Fighter (1991)(Idea)(Disk 2 of 2)[b2 checksum error]


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Re: Amiga renaming suggestions
« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2010, 07:15:28 PM »
The first one i'm almost sure.
The idea of the counters is to avoid collision in really similar cases, in that example you can identify the sets without it, one example where you would need a counter on [ b ] flag would be:
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Dragon Fighter (1991)(Idea)(Disk 2 of 2)[b checksum error]
Dragon Fighter (1991)(Idea)(Disk 2 of 2)[b2 checksum error]
Where you had 2 sets and all you knew was that they were both bad because of (different) checksum errors and because of that different hashes/files.

Good luck!
(i might have news for you sooner than you think :P)

Offline mai

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Re: Amiga renaming suggestions
« Reply #36 on: June 11, 2010, 07:26:09 PM »
Then the usage of [a] flag is different?

An example of current Amiga dat:
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A-10 Tank Killer v1.5 (1991)(Dynamix)(Disk 2 of 3)[a3 filesystem]
A-10 Tank Killer v1.5 (1991)(Dynamix)(Disk 2 of 3)[a4 highscore]
A-10 Tank Killer v1.5 (1991)(Dynamix)(Disk 2 of 3)[a5 no highscore]

Offline PandMonium

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Re: Amiga renaming suggestions
« Reply #37 on: June 11, 2010, 07:36:19 PM »
No, it's the same. AFAIK the way i described is the right way, there is no need to add an extra char/number to a setname when it is not needed.

In that case IMO it should just all be:
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A-10 Tank Killer v1.5 (1991)(Dynamix)(Disk 2 of 3)[a filesystem]
A-10 Tank Killer v1.5 (1991)(Dynamix)(Disk 2 of 3)[a highscore]
A-10 Tank Killer v1.5 (1991)(Dynamix)(Disk 2 of 3)[a no highscore]
It seems more logical to me, don't you agree?

All flags that have counters should only use them when it is really needed to differenciate / avoid name collisions. If not, cases like:
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A-10 Tank Killer v1.5 (1991)(Dynamix)[cr mai]
A-10 Tank Killer v1.5 (1991)(Dynamix)[cr PandMonium]
would need to be:
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A-10 Tank Killer v1.5 (1991)(Dynamix)[cr mai]
A-10 Tank Killer v1.5 (1991)(Dynamix)[cr2 PandMonium]

TNC is already complex, we want to keep it as simple as possible :P

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Re: Amiga renaming suggestions
« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2010, 07:50:34 PM »
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A-10 Tank Killer v1.5 (1991)(Dynamix)(Disk 2 of 3)[a filesystem]
A-10 Tank Killer v1.5 (1991)(Dynamix)(Disk 2 of 3)[a highscore]
A-10 Tank Killer v1.5 (1991)(Dynamix)(Disk 2 of 3)[a no highscore]

Ok, maybe its logical, but if we would rename to this, then we have another problem:
Its because of the matching disk 1 and 3.
A-10 Tank Killer v1.5 (1991)(Dynamix)(Disk 2 of 3)[a3 filesystem]
has a matching disk 1:
A-10 Tank Killer v1.5 (1991)(Dynamix)(Disk 1 of 3)[a3]
If we would rename to
A-10 Tank Killer v1.5 (1991)(Dynamix)(Disk 2 of 3)[a filesystem]
then there is no longer a relation to
A-10 Tank Killer v1.5 (1991)(Dynamix)(Disk 1 of 3)[a3].
its confusing.

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Re: Amiga renaming suggestions
« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2010, 07:54:55 PM »
Humm... and Disk 1 is not also [a filesystem]? You always give me weird examples and rare cases :P
Maybe that's the reason why these ones have it that way, i'm not sure. Let it be that way for now and wait for others opinion. In your view what would be the better solution?

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Re: Amiga renaming suggestions
« Reply #40 on: June 11, 2010, 08:13:55 PM »
Disk 1 has not a [a filesystem].
I am really not sure, whats the right way.
Maybe its also not important, that disk 1 and disk 2 have to stay together.
For the moment i let it as it is.

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Re: Amiga renaming suggestions
« Reply #41 on: June 28, 2010, 03:36:18 PM »
From PD Forum:
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Hi there,

I haven't run the adf but maybe there is an error in a file name in Demos/Animations and Videos:
"Juggler Demo I (19xx)(Schwartz, Eric W.)" (if it is the original Juggler Demo) has been mistakenly attributed to Eric Schwartz and has no release date.
Actually Juggler is Copyright © 1986 Eric Graham.
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Re: Amiga renaming suggestions
« Reply #42 on: June 29, 2010, 06:19:20 PM »
I looked at it & there's nothing in the image to suggest either are correct.  Haven't got time to do any fuller research into it atm though, if anyone else wants to then feel free ;)

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Re: Amiga renaming suggestions
« Reply #43 on: July 02, 2010, 08:58:35 AM »
In Amiga Demos or Slideshows (don't know for sure):

Erection Collection (199x)(Reflex)[XXX]
is AGA.

Don't know more details, just that "it comes up AGA only". Was reported to me on IRC by Symmo.
yeah its demo slideshows
pic is here http://symmo.net/tosec/erection%20collection.png
Try this as your wallpaper if you are new :-) http://symmo.net/tosec/tosectnc.png

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about the juggler
« Reply #44 on: July 02, 2010, 09:35:12 AM »
ok had a look in a hex editor
copyright 1987 to Blair-Sullivan and commodore
blair did other animations as well.
anyways also found this to http://home.comcast.net/~erniew/juggler.html
in the May/June 1987 AmigaWorld in which Eric Graham explains how the Juggler was created.
which he raytraced in scuplt3d just the demo says at the start how long it took to render.
The other eric draws by hand if i remember what i read a longtime ago .

So if load the demo and read the note and compare to that page it matches.
also in hex is says imported by cobra and supremancy all in 1987.
Hope that helps.
Hang on news flash another hex search found this 86, E. Graham 505 281-3184
at line 0002:D616

..86, E. Graham 505 281-3184.....6movie:movie.data.OpenWindow2.The individual frames of the movie are being fetched from disk.  When.the movie starts you may press any of the digit keys '0' to '9' to.change the speed of the movie.  Press the escape key 'ESC' to exit the.program..The images were generated with a standard Amiga with 512K memory.  A ray.tracing method was used, which simulates rays of light reflecting within.a mathematically defined scene.  Each image requires the calcula.......E.......è...m[q¢¼tion of.64,000 light rays and takes approximately 1 hour to generate.  An image.is compressed to about 10K bytes for storage.  Images are expanded in.less than 30 milliseconds.  The Amiga hold and modify mode is employed.so that up to 4096 colors can be displayed at one time.. Press ESC for the CAT demo  .NOW PRESS ANY KEY TO START THE MOVIE.

In the movie on page has a movie that is 100% the same even the same annoying beep .
U can scroll down on that link to see a picture of the demo which is the same as well .
U would think after the effort to render it they would have used a real sound sample :-)
« Last Edit: July 02, 2010, 10:02:44 AM by Symmo »
Try this as your wallpaper if you are new :-) http://symmo.net/tosec/tosectnc.png