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Offline mai

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Re: Amiga groups related
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2009, 04:36:26 PM »
ok, i get back home today and will input that information, do you plan in using this abbreviation or is just for reference?

The abbreviation seems to be valid, its not used by a different group, so i will use this abbrviation instead of full name.
I know, you have a lot to do TOSEC related, but it would be nice, if TOSEC groups database would be up to date, for comparing purpose.

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Re: Amiga groups related
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2009, 04:40:41 PM »
lol it should (almost) always be, the problem is that i can update it because my sister shutted down my desktop and i will only be back in 2 or 3 hours, after that all Amiga groups/publishers will be updated :)

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Re: Spreadpoint
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2009, 08:49:41 PM »
"Spreadpoint" = "SP"
Screenshot taken from:
Oscar CD32 (1993)(Flair)(AGA)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr Spreadpoint][CD32 rip]

I know, its not a good proof, because its not a big, fat logo, but its more than likely the right abbreviation.

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Re: Amiga groups related
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2009, 08:59:36 PM »
"ING" used in:
Operation Cleanstreet (1988)(Broderbund)[cr ING - WOW]
Operation Cleanstreet (1988)(Broderbund)[cr ING - WOW][a]
is invalid.
The real abbreviation used in the cracktro is "TNG" = "The Next Generation"
You can not see the real full name in the cracktro itself, but on the disk you can read "TNG" = "The Next Generation", so its a proof.
screenshot:
About this one, there are 2 sets using "TNG" correctly i guess, there is also one Amiga set using "Next Generation" and it is probably the same group, don't you think it should be fixed to "The Next Generation" or "TNG"? In Atari ST there is also a reference to Next Generation but we don't know much for now and it is possibly a different publisher/group/...


"Strike Force" = "TSF"
Screenshots taken from:
Operation Stealth (1990)(Delphine)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 3)[cr Strike Force]
About this one, there is / was a group called Strike Force in C64 that supposely used SF abbreviation ( http://noname.c64.org/csdb/group/?id=670 ), in Amiga afaik SF was used for a group called Star Frontiers right? So the C64 group wasn't the same one you described here for Amiga, can i assume this? :P

There are probably some errors with these cases, Star Frontiers seem to be present in C64 and Amiga but i don't have any idea of what SF is being used for each, i suspect SF in Amiga dats is Star Frontiers but in C64 i really don't know :x

"Spreadpoint" = "SP"
Screenshot taken from:
Oscar CD32 (1993)(Flair)(AGA)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr Spreadpoint][CD32 rip]

I know, its not a good proof, because its not a big, fat logo, but its more than likely the right abbreviation.
thanks :)
also:
« Last Edit: September 27, 2009, 09:25:25 PM by PandMonium »

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Re: Amiga groups related
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2009, 09:34:02 PM »

About this one, there are 2 sets using "TNG" correctly i guess, there is also one Amiga set using "Next Generation" and it is probably the same group, don't you think it should be fixed to "The Next Generation" or "TNG"?


Gee Bee Air Rally (1987)(Activision)[cr HTL - Next Generation]
is probably the same, more than likely, on disk you can find a file called "TNG", the years 87, 88, 88 are suitable.

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Re: PDS
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2009, 06:22:42 PM »
"PDS" used once in
Over the Net (1990)(Genias)(NTSC)[cr PDS]
is invalid.
The real abbreviation should be "PRD" = "Paradise".
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« Last Edit: September 29, 2009, 06:47:42 PM by mai »

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Re: Amiga groups related
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2009, 10:50:07 PM »
thanks, added :)

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Re: Amiga groups related
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2009, 04:03:40 PM »
BTB = Born to Booze
Screenshot taken from:
Pool of Radiance v1.0 (1990)(U.S. Gold)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr BTB]

@PandMonium:
Is the URL
http://panda.pt-server.com/amiga/tosecamigagroups.htm
outdated?
Updated: 2009-07-06 17:51

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Re: Amiga groups related
« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2009, 06:50:27 PM »
Hi mai,
thanks image added.

Yes it is outdated, i didn't know someone was still using that :P
Anyway it is updated now and i will send you a pm with some more details :)

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Re: Amiga groups related
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2009, 02:36:20 PM »
ISO = The International Spreading Organization

Home country is Germany

....used once in
Tracers (1991)(MicroIllusions)[cr ISO]

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« Last Edit: October 25, 2009, 02:47:26 PM by mai »

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Re: Amiga groups related
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2009, 02:43:16 PM »
TSB = The Special Brothers

Home country seems to be Luxemburg.

..this is a known abbreviation,
and here is the proof, so its valid.

Screenshot taken from:
Sword and the Rose, The (1990)(Codemasters)[cr Angels][t +2 TSB]
« Last Edit: October 25, 2009, 02:45:55 PM by mai »

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Re: Amiga groups related
« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2009, 02:56:20 PM »
TAA
used once in:
Strip Poker II+ (1988)(Anco)[cr TAA]
is not correct.

TAA 4750 = The Avenging Angels 4750

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Re: Amiga groups related
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2009, 03:01:01 PM »
SKL = Skyline

Home country is Germany.

Screenshot taken from:
Raster Bike (1988)(EAS)[cr Skyline]


@PandMonium: Thanks for the efforts, creating the amazing database.
Now i always know, which proofs are needed. :)
« Last Edit: October 25, 2009, 03:06:12 PM by mai »

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Re: Amiga groups related
« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2009, 11:48:05 PM »
hey, thanks for the new pics/info :D

have just 2 questions for you:
TAA
TAA 4750 = The Avenging Angels 4750
For TAA there is also a set named:
"TAA 87 (1987)(TAA)"
in datfile: "Commodore Amiga - Demos - Animations and Videos"

Since it is a demo it should be by a scene group, do you know if this is the same group (and so publisher field should also be fixed?) or a new group?


SKL = Skyline
Here i will just make a reference to 2 other sets that are also using Skyline but in publisher field, one is from c64 docs datfile so i suppose it is a different 'something', the other is "Squamble (19xx)(Skyline)[t +4 LGD]" from "Commodore Amiga - Games - Public Domain - [ADF]", which i have no idea if it is the same group, other or something else (publisher, blabla).
Also SKL isn't used anywhere for Amiga sets, if you plan to use it for this group please let me know :)

Thanks for the efforts, creating the amazing database.
Now i always know, which proofs are needed. :)
well, thanks :)
but i have really A LOT more to (re)do, hope it can serve us to fix a lot of errors but it is only valuable with your and others help :P

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Re: Amiga groups related
« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2009, 02:13:40 PM »
hmm, can anyone see mai's screenshots ?  the only one showing fore me is in pandmonium's post #18.